Ok… Obama is hot and Osama is cold dead. Americans are celebrating all over the death of the antichrist. That should sound good but for me it sounds so weird. Please don’t hate me if you are pro Bush but i really believe as many people around the world that this guy is a scape goat. I do believe that september 11 was not very well explained and those buildings really looked like they were imploded. Inside job. I know all anti Bush writers did many pieces about this and i’m not naturally anti Bush. I don’t live in the States so for me it’s not a really big difference. I can only say that looking from outside the whole thing don’t stick. The thing in the pentagon don’t look like a plane. There were no weapons of mass destruction in Iraque. Those arabs that learned to pilot in night school and were able to crash the planes on the twin towers with no trouble at all especially the second one. After that first hit nobody was looking at the airspace in that area to see the other aircraft approaching. If i was an US citizen i would not fall for these stories and mostly i would not fall for this man’s power. Bin Laden. If the US wanted they would have Bin Laden on a plate like they did with Saddam Hussein. That guy was real. The other i’m not sure. I only saw him on those videos and most of the videos were made by sosias of the guy. Very convenient. Even his body is at the sea now. Nothing to see there. What if that guy never existen in the first place. Maybe he existed but not his actions. Maybe the government just locked the guy years ago and produced all those videos out of look alikes. We will probably never know but the fact is that is all too weird to celebrate. To close the deal now out of the blue the guy dies. Very convenient for Obama’s administration to regain some credit. All too convenient…Sorry for the conspiracy theory but it seams propper at this time.
I don’t know what is true or what isn’t, but I know what I don’t like. Even if theoretically, this man deserved to die as recompense for the lives he played a part in taking, there is something chilling and dysfunctional about having a hooley out at ground zero, actually jubliant over an act of war. The purposeful taking of life should never be celebrated, but on the news, they keep showing crowds of people out on the streets absolutely hysterical with happiness. It just doesn’t sit right with me. It is not a great “achievement,”as Obama said today. How is killing an “achievement.”
Killing is never an achievement… That’s for sure. Funny that i used to joke when i first heard of Obama. I joke that they took of his beard but spelled his name wrong…
Obama Bin Laden…lol
I could not even read this. My childrens’ aunt’s sister was one of the people killed on September 11, 2001. She was from ME and she was flying a lone in her own little plane or something like that. We have needed this closure for a long time. I am hoping for sanity and peace. It was 2001 right?
I guess it was…But did you get closure with the death of that man? He is almost a clown. I really don’t believe he had the power to do that… anyhow… if that gives you peace and sanity i guess it is a positive thing in this mess…
Yes, I did and if she did than I did even more so, but I do not know that yet. I know what you mean about him seeming clownish. I just used that wording about him last night or this morning before reading what you wrote here. It is creepy and sad and it is a bad thing in general for us to see a human life and death as being so trivial.
Really… It makes me wonder how out of control things are in our society. We “let” these things happen when we don’t do anything to stop it. It’s all so crazy now. I wonder what people in 300 years will say about us…
I am also very impressed with Obama very cleanly taking care of a terrible situation. He used his presidental power correctly.
I really like him! I hate the fact that everybody complained about his first speech. I like that fact that he doesn’t run away from problems or try to fake the situation. I really like him and Clinton. That man was a great image from US to the world. I hate Bush…
I do not hate Bush, but I was terrified when he was president. I do not like that Clinton cheated on his wife and The White House and I had to have it rubbed in my face by the media. My ex-fiance was fond of Clinton though so I am guessing that there is something good about Clinton. Clinton seems to be getting old to me though.
The thing about Clinton is that he was a great marketing man. I think the US always can get benefits from i guy like that. Bush showed a humorless and stubborn side of the country to the rest of the world. Now the best thing about Clinton in my opinion is his wife! She should run the US…
(in The White House I meant)
I think that the real moral of the story is that goodness builds on goodness and negativity builds on negativity.
You are totally right!!!!
Same sentiments as you, Giulas, on many counts. Saddam Hussein was very real, but we have never seen the real Osama. I took the report of his demise with a pinch of salt. For all we know, he could have died years ago.
Years, days, who knows… The guy is a total mistery…
So if the death of a person known to have commited horrible murders isn’t too celebrate I don’t know what is. Should we let people like Charles Manson go free? Why should I pay for him to live as he does? Everything free too him, even medical care? He gets medical care and my daughter who works very hard does not? There are evil people who would harm anyone and should not be free to come and go as they please. We aren’t talking about someone who is innocent and good. We aren’t talking about someone who contributes good to society. We are talking about someone who spreads evil and pain. Good riddance I say, one more gone. The world is a better place.
Ye… if is truth… That’s where is my problem… I don’t even know if that guy exists… Now changing totally the subject to Manson i have a confession to make. I wish there were death penalty in Brasil but there’s none. I should write a post about it. There are people as bad as Manson here. Their punishment is 30 years in jail and with good behavior you can cut it even to 10 years. Imagine that after such a short period these people are free again…
“So if the death of a person known to have commited horrible murders isn’t too celebrate I don’t know what is. Should we let people like Charles Manson go free?”
That’s a bit petulant and unreasonable. Might I suggest celebrating worthy things, like the birth of a child, a happy relationship, family and friends? Surely our energies are better channelled into these things, as opposed to prancing around happy clappy that a terrorist has been killed. How does this help us with our loss, how does this heal the rifts within our communities and doesn’t this outward celebration only attract the threat of more atrocity, doesn’t it only serve to provoke?? Instead, solemnly acknowledge and accept the closure and what has come to pass with Bin Laden’s death with dignity. We must remember and respect the dead- colossal loss of life not only from 9/11 but the resultant loss of life in the conflicts with Iraq and Afghanistan which cumulatively amount to almost 1million people, the majority of which were innocent civillians.
As someone more intelligent than I once said, there are no losers or winners in war, only the dead.
We have to hold on to our humanity, it is something precious to be protected.
Still in my minds eye I kept seeing him being carried away in some kind of scarcoffugus.
Who is a mystery? 😉
Bin laden… as i said before i’m really not even sure he exists…
My exfiance’s sister did a LDS mission in Brasil. That is where you live? I would like to go there some day.
It’s a great place…great people…just as in many places we have some wrongs that needs being corrected…
So anyway where is the conspiracy?
The night before September 11th I was on an airplane flying from Phoenix, AZ to Vermont which is basically acrossed the Unites States. I woke up in the morning in my little apartment with the blue living room walls to my tv replaying and replaying the September 11th incident(s). It seems now like I only got 2 channels. It kept playing it over and over again. I did no turn it off I guess because I was stunned. I did not know Hadley back then my sons’ aunt whose sister was a pilot and wa killed by a terrorist, but the images from the tv traumatized me. I have these terrible “flashbacks from it”. Back in the winter of 2002 in Barre, Vermont (winters in VT are dark and cold) I was having images of flames at night when I should have been sleeping. I can tell you for sure that it really did happen.
I know!!! The whole world saw it!!!
I didn’t like the celebrating either. As an outsider, it makes both sides look as bad as each other. I worry now about the possibility of martyrdom and what that may bring.
Wow… Don’t tell me…Bin Laden Martyr is the last thing this world need…
thanks for your point of view, Giuliano!
Thank you…Let’s see what happens right?
Yes, dido frizztext. I have been checking in with you, because it has been helping me to stay grounded.
In response to your post “Its Raining” have you seen the movie “Big Momma’s House”? I refer to myself as that all of the time to my 5 year old son, because I am aware of how important the mom with the pocket book with a packet of tissues in it and car keys and house keys and plenty of money and love and understanding (icon) is to their children.
Safety…
I respect you as a person, I respect your right to have and express an opinion. I dont agree with your opinion, so its best I leave it at that before I offend someone.
I do respect you too as i also respect your opinion. I really just don’t see no reason to offend anyone. These are all opinions, right? More than the right we have the obligation to share it and discuss it… That’s what we are doing. If we have no conflict of opinion we are not exchanging here… Just being polite. I really respect the fact you can really not agree with what i wrote… That’s why people write… To bring subjects to light so they can be argued and maybe somethings can get resolved and others not.
Maybe this explains somewhat and you can understand where I am coming from?
http://pspacer11.wordpress.com/2011/05/04/open-minded-really/
If this post has to do with this i can only say that i’m sorry to bring back things you wanted to leave behind. It was not the purpose at all.
Actually the purpose was to see what are the opinions of everyone that follows the blog. Most of my posts are starting of conversations and arguments. I don’t have the talent you have to write and i think my need to write has to do with sharing. Even so i would drop it in an instant if i learned it was harmful in any way to anyone. I hope you only get closer and closer to your goals. You have plenty talent for that.
I think that Alisis is funny perhaps and introspective and I enjoy reading her posts. I find them completely benign which is refreshing.